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Retar Aveymone
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Posted - 2014.07.17 18:13:00 -
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"Refining (Nullsec conquerable) 0.8 0.8"
These don't currently have manufacturing slots. Are they getting the ability to install manufacturing jobs? |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.18 02:09:00 -
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Querns wrote:I've probably mentioned this before, but here it goes again as a post-Crius Hail Mary.
Right now, there are compressed varieties of all three types of an ore (e.g.: Veldspar, Concentrated Veldspar, and Dense Veldspar.) Instead of having three different types of compressed ore, could all three types of these ore simply compress down to "Compressed Veldspar"?
You can do this by making the amount of, e.g., Dense Veldspar needed to make a Compressed Veldspar be less than the normal Veldspar -> Compressed Veldspar recipe.
Doing this would simplify the acquisition of ore on the market significantly. oh god please do this |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.18 02:19:00 -
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Mauvian wrote:What will happen to Research Outposts that have upgrades installed. Before they provided 50 research slots, what will they provide post patch?
I combed through the devblogs and could find thing that addressed it. .9 job cost multiplier. |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.18 13:26:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote: Sorry, edited original post to add the word "time" between "whenever" and "it's", that wasn't clear.
Case 1, ME5. Case 2, ME9. We take whatever level the blueprint was at when the job started, convert that, and then when the job finishes add however many levels (capped at level 10) it was in research for.
:argh:
so much prepatch research done on the wrong assumption about the changeover |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.18 13:32:00 -
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DeODokktor wrote:I would be surprised if it worked that way. Devs have been known to often get things wrong when explaining how they think it works ;P...
If someone would have found out about this 6 months ago they could have 10% cap prints after patch... Not a lot of time left, but I might see about throwing in some cruisers for 1/1 and rushing a me5 install prior to patch ;P...
everyone with caps was already researching their bpos
though had i known about this, i'd have researched slightly differently, but we still learned in time to cancel/redo jobs |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.18 15:22:00 -
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DeODokktor wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Yeah, wonder who the VIP's are that have had access to the server for the past few days, while the masses are locked out.
confirming that I am on sisi right now as I am a vip If your saying your on SiSi during VIP mode then your saying your a DEV / ISD.. Saying your a DEV / ISD when your not = permaban. If you are a DEV / ISD then exposing your ingame char = Char Removal. Stop trolling. as i also have been easily able to log into sisi for the past few days i must also be a vip
good to know
i see tons of other vips in there as well they're really letting basically anyone be a vip these days |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:10:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: Yes, I don't doubt that wormhole crews will be dropping in to say "hi" to some null sec and low sec indy POS's. Only problem with that is that they can only harass, not actually take down a POS. No chance any organized entity will allow a wormhole to stay up in their k-space, especially if it was used as a staging point in an attack.
don't see a problem with that, though i am gratified you are now looking out for us in nullsec |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.21 16:34:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: So bottom line, you are saying "Screw you all you Cap manufacturers that used the existing TQ paradigm for years to maximize research time versus rewards, we have completely broken that paradigm, and oh, btw, to achieve anything close to the same wastage you enjoy on Tranquility today , you will have FURTHER research your BPO's for YEARS, given the new hyperbolic time / ME curve".
stick your bpos into research right now (before the patch hits), and your moros bpo will come out perfect
your archon bpo if you stick it in research right now will come out at 9%
basically if you make the heads-up play you wind up ahead but you've got only a few hours to do it |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.21 18:38:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: My ME3 Thanatos and Archon BPO's will be upgraded from ME3 to ME4, which will STILL translate to an 8% waste BPO (same transformation for ME3 and Me4), and my Moros will be upgraded from ME6 to ME7 under the existing system, which I believes translates to the same crappy BPO under the new system.
nope
while in research, the ME3 will transform into ME8%, then you will get the one additional level you were researching: me9% while in research, the ME6 will transform into ME9%, then you will get the one additional level you were researching: me10%
i, too, assumed the transfer would happen the way you assumed it would (that the end product transforms once its done), but greyscale's earlier posts (which one would think you read religiously) make it clear the transformation happens as I said above, probably because it's easier from a technical standpoint. once i found that out i had to cancel some research jobs and reinstall because they were suboptimal (i had figured there was no point researching ME on my me5 nag bpos, so i might as well get some TE: now, i'm a few months behind schedule for my glorious ME10% nag bpos)
so you'll get the perfect moros bpo you always dreamed of and none of us dirty nullsec cartels will have a better bpo than you do dinsy |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.21 18:40:00 -
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like seriously dinsdale, you missed the one change that is to your massive personal benefit, maybe you think things are always terrible because you always miss those changes while looking for the latest way the ~nullsec cabals~ have screwed you |
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.21 19:03:00 -
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Ruric Thyase wrote: I also went to fanfest this year and had a chance to meet CCP Greyscale. The guy is a lot of fun to talk to and to chat with and I would actually argue that he DOES play EVE. Not in the sense of you and I as players and customers, I am talking in the sense as a dev. On one of his free time projects, he effectively made a bomb that would bump everything in its explosion radius after explaining how all ships are spheres and the bomb would make one giant sphere. He got his inspiration for this from the "Dreadbuchet" tactic that is wildly hilarious. He does also listen to input from players and he does also care about the game.
i demand this bomb be put into the next patch this sounds like one of the most fun additions to the game i've heard of in a long time |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.21 22:17:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Citation please re: transformation as you described it.
it is this very thread you are posting in:
CCP Greyscale wrote: We take whatever level the blueprint was at when the job started, convert that, and then when the job finishes add however many levels (capped at level 10) it was in research for.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4816392#post4816392
he notes the math error in that post and posts to correct and confirm that ME5 in research to ME6 when patch hits goes to ME10%:
CCP Greyscale wrote:Oh, yeah, sorry. ME10. I picked from the available options, didn't check the math on the second one
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4817233#post4817233
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.22 00:28:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: Cool, I missed that.
That one gift to all players still does not alter the fact that this overhaul is an unmitigated disaster for high sec players, low sec cap manufacturers, with yet another massive wealth transfer to the null sec cartels, who architected this whole thing in the first place.
do you think that if you could post repeatedly in this thread and miss the three greyscale posts about that change (one over a foot long, hard to miss), perhaps you aren't giving it as much thought as it deserves |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.23 16:12:00 -
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Hirogenale wrote: You don't get business, do you? its never about beeing perfect, its about beeing better than others, you can sell BPC's at the same price as others and yours will be bought, you have more flexibility and are able to undercut others a bit more than they can afford, allows you to control markets better than they do. Also many people planned for years ahead, doing research that would have resulted in a profit in 2-3 years, they were screwed over as well, not only losing that profit, also losing valuable researchtime. Basically: everyone who actually put some thought into it and planned for the future got ******, yey CCP
business is about wise investment
making investments based on deceiving your customers irl is extremely risky as those sorts of activities are highly likely to be regulated out of existence
so too has CCP regulated the scam of "my me 200 bpc is 2x as good as that me100!!!". regrettably the regulation of this scam has impacted your investments: but that's why scammers don't make investments |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.23 16:14:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: ME (and PE on a minor effect) are to BPC traders what SEO is to search engines.
a scam that will get your site blackholed by google when they find you've been deceiving their users by abusing their algorithm with tricks that gave you more attention than your content deserved?
what a good analogy, im glad we're on the same side of this issue |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.23 20:50:00 -
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i put a lot of good money into marketing Retar Aveymone's Cure-All Snake Oil, how dare you impose these regulations that i must prove the efficacy of any medical claims I make without compensating me for the millions i spent investing in a way to hoodwink the common idiot |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.23 23:55:00 -
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CCP has actually said they don't like the margin trading scam being possible, they just don't have good ideas to fix it. |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.24 00:47:00 -
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Red Bluesteel wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:T1 ammo is rank 1; jump freighters are rank 4000 So did that mean 71,11*h x 4000 = 284.444,44*h = 11.851 Day = 32,47 Years to reach ME 10...??? WOOW, Lucky ppl who Researched that Post Patch... Your kidding CCP ? i hold in my hand a complete list of everyone who has ever trained a jump freighter bpo even a single level
you may notice that there's no paper in my hand but I assure you that I have that list |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.24 12:24:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: ME (and PE on a minor effect) are to BPC traders what SEO is to search engines.
a scam that will get your site blackholed by google when they find you've been deceiving their users by abusing their algorithm with tricks that gave you more attention than your content deserved? what a good analogy, im glad we're on the same side of this issue Have you EVER worked on SEO? Does not seem so. i have not worked in optimizing scam sites to get better google rankings then complained when google's update blackholes my site, no
why do you ask |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.24 12:32:00 -
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if you knew anything about SEO, of course, you'd know that google changing the rules of the game to punish people who try to exploit flaws in the ranking algorithm to get undeserved attention - like bpo plumage!
it really was a good analogy you hit on i must thank you |
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.24 13:24:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: So, to you Amazon.com, TripAdvisor, Booking.com... and thousands top websites (and top SEO optimized websites) and any E-commerce website based on Magento (and others) are a scam?
Are you joking?
I mean, how can anyone ever listen to ONE of your sentences with a minimum of credibility after these gross sweeping statements?
so to you, [obviously untrue statement because i have an indefensable position and need to throw chaff], [dismissal of obviously untrue statement that i hope causes a new argument that distracts from my hilariously indefensible position], [attempt to assert intellectual superiority that my posts cannot support]
q.e.d. |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:14:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:wait, I should clarify
bpo plumage WAS black hat seo
now it's gone forever :sun: Talks the virgin belonging to the "Goonswarm" holy sisters cloister. The same saints who exploited uncounted billions when CCP released "Forex FW", the same who endorse the classic "500M Goonswarm membership entry fee", the same who gouged and made cartel over the Technetium market for years. The same who studied every exploit possible to twist and shape EvE grids to PvP advantage and... I just can't list the endless series of filth your alliance has done through the years. And now they come here preaching'n'teaching on the high moral ground like holy sisters. This is just gross. the difference is we don't ***** and moan when they patch out our latest scam and stamp our feet demanding compensation, we come up with a new one
scamming people is great, but when ccp eliminated freeform contracts we did not demand compensation for the loss of our ability to more easily scam people
hell, when we were living high off the hog on technetium and had so much money that we paid half of highsec to kill the other half, did we demand ccp never touch tech and demand to be compensated once they did? of course not: we loudly advocated that it be nerfed even as we built palaces out of pure ******* from our technetium funds
we are the best because we continually adapt and find new ways to scrabble to the top
edit: apparently a fine white powdery drug is a censored word on eveo |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:36:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: ...yet when others scrabble to the top you are in first line to put them down.
Just because I am not a son of a Beep and earned my position with hard work instead of "creative scrabbling", does not make me any less worth "staying at the top" than you guys.
nobody has yet scrabbled anywhere near the top but the top is our territory, we stay king of the hill by knocking down the scrubs that come at us
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:47:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: You are right, it's now years that you manage to get the game changed towards your own vision. The only "glitch" in that is, the other players are paying a sub to witness your "being at the top" and one day might get tired of that.
i can assure you that you or your overresearched bpos were not part of our potential threat analysis |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.26 20:28:00 -
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Arist en Daire wrote:Laughable Xhosa Girl wrote:its kinda funny that the only activity supposed 'economic experts' were good at was selling hilariously over-researched bpcs You are so correct!!! The only people posting that are "supposed 'economic experts' " are those who "were good at was selling hilariously over-researched bpcs". Yeah RIIIGGGHHTTTT!!!!!!! I have never (yet) researched a BP nor sold one. Have preferred to buy and use the "hilariously over-researched bpcs" because they were more economical both in terms of production time and more particularly in terms of materials. Both of which contribute to the cost of manufacture. My major isk making is in trading - which I do rather well at. I have 21 units of graduate studies completed towards an MBA, I have owned my own business in the work-aday-world and I have 6 years experience in retail management -- so I probably know at least a "little" about economics and the market. Now -- let's hear your credentials. for all the many, many, many accurate bad things you can say about the bpc seller 'economic experts' in this thread, at least they knew their research was utterly worthless from a practical standpoint except to con fools
you, on the other hand, appear to have been their bread and butter |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.26 20:34:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Capt GoodDeal wrote:Laughable Xhosa Girl wrote:its kinda funny that the only activity supposed 'economic experts' were good at was selling hilariously over-researched bpcs And your area of industrial expertise is??? Lemme guess....ganking defenseless haulers and miners? Don't mind "her", it's years I annoy them. Ya know, openly talking against the baddies they are, except 2 of their economy leaders (Mynna and Aryth) who are REALLY REALLY good and probably without them GS would have been neutered years ago. Wars are won with money and they are really good at finding ways to make it. Too bad imo they are being used and squatter-ed by a lot of bloodsuckers who entertrain a nice life they would not be able to remotely afford if they had to participate and work hard to repay losses, ship replacement programs and so on. Like any good socialist system, it lives nice and happy until taxpayers money is over. And can afford spewing propaganda 24/7. your central thesis here is that a group of people who each could buy and sell you a few times over at a minimum are each annoyed by a highsec pubbie calling them bad
have you seen what every other highsec pubbie who scrabbles for isk does on eveo? or just in this very thread? |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.26 21:07:00 -
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we recognize that sometimes it's upsetting to be in the presence of greats. i mean if i really loved to play basketball and really wanted to be good at it i'd probably get frustrated by playing against lebron james and getting squashed and knowing that i was never going to be on that level. and i'm way closer to lebron than most people itt are to us, so it's got to be even worse.
but the thing is we're here to help. you may dislike our swarthy alliance, our rugged good looks and our well-deserved swagger as the preeminent economic group in eve, miles above even our closest competitors (who, i regret to say, are none of you). but we're always dispensing helpful advice that you don't want to hear.
you probably can't ever be us: but you can be more like us and that is the path to self-improvement. you won't be doing a forex or a guidance systems, but one day you may think "boy maybe i shouldn't mindlessly copy bpcs endlessly and then scream like a little girl when a change forces me to think of a new business strategy. perhaps instead i should read the patch notes and sieze one of the new opportunities that it offers!"
and then you'll actually manage to have some fun and make some real isk, instead of a desperate attempt to roleplay a bot or justify the massive failings of your personal ideology and/or life by proving that maybe they work in a videogame nothing like life
Arist en Daire wrote:I have 6 years experience in retail management
every member of the goonswarm economic cabal is professionally successful enough to know what this bit of resume padding means
i will have fries with that, thank you |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.27 00:17:00 -
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bob's fatal arrogance wasn't that they thought they were better than highsec pubbies
it was that they thought they were better than us |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.27 03:41:00 -
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could you please settle a bet and post the three members you are aware of |
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